Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ali Ibrahim Pasha

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 (talk) 19:11, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ali Ibrahim Pasha

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Unsourced and trivial. The subject does not seem to be notable. Keivan.f^Talk 06:05, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Egypt-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 10:26, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 10:26, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ Keep - firstly, it wouldn't be trivial, since ministers are generally viewed as notable, and given the age, any coverage at all would probably be sufficient. However, despite a fairly active search (including Aly, not Ali) I couldn't turn up anything conclusive, so for the moment Delete seems appropriate. Luck to anyone else in a search Nosebagbear (talk) 20:13, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Nosebagbear: - see below.Icewhiz (talk) 12:21, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Per @Icewhiz:'s second source (first is inaccessible) there is evidence of existence. There's only actually one distinct link between Ibrahim and Riyad, which is needed to properly understand it (see footnote 52 on p297). In any case, I'm happy for this to be keep. Thought it worth pinging @Keivan.f: on it, given his comment below. Nosebagbear (talk) 12:50, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment since the Khedive was essentially an indepdent country, he is notable. However we need to verify his existence.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:09, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed - I'd be perfectly happy to accept any reasonable evidence of his existence as sufficient for a Keep Nosebagbear (talk) 10:21, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have no prejudice against keeping or recreating this article if his identity can be verified. Keivan.f^Talk 20:43, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Meets WP:NPOL Verified his existence via 1954 m.sc thesis[[1] and appearance in the notes of an academically published book.[2]. There's also a NEWSORG (Arabic) source in List of Ministers of Education of Egypt - but it's a dead link and I'm unable to find the piece online.Icewhiz (talk) 12:20, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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